This official statement from Cuppy’s Coffee & More regarding the Java Jo’z controversy was posted in the comments section of a FranBest.Com post:
Official Statement from Cuppyâ€™s Coffee & More
In May 2006, Medina Enterprises, a Nevada based company, purchased the assets of Java Joâ€™z Coffee & More, LLC, and Emerald Coast Manufacturing Inc. From this transaction, the principle owner of Medina formed an association with another individual, and Cuppyâ€™s Coffee & More, an international coffee franchise, emerged.
Through this transaction, Cuppyâ€™s Coffee obtained the rights to the logos, assumed the leases and acquired a majority of the equipment. A majority of the former employees of Java Joâ€™z were offered positions and are now employed at Cuppyâ€™s.
Java Joâ€™z still exists as a licensing company and is owned by Kim Snowden. Roy and Kim Snowden have no financial, operational, or legal association with Cuppyâ€™s Coffee.
Although Cuppyâ€™s Coffee holds no legal obligation to provide marketing, operational, or product support to the Java Joâ€™z customers, Cuppyâ€™s has chosen to offer these services to the Java Joâ€™z owners.
Since August 2006, Cuppyâ€™s Coffee has been inviting any coffee business (including Java Joâ€™z customers) the opportunity to convert into a Cuppyâ€™s franchise. For conversion details please contact Rudy Harper at firstname.lastname@example.org
Â I have contacted Rudy Harper via email to ask him for the conditions and terms of “conversion.”Â Will the alleged deposits of $20K-$30K be credited to those Java Jo’z who paid them to Java Jo’z.Â What form will the credits be in:Â waived franchise fees and future royalties?Â The alleged “victims” had been unable to find locations.Â Will Cuppy’s find them suitableÂ locations for their businesses?Â I’ll update this post with the answers when/if received.
WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE CUPPY’S STATEMENT AND OFFER?Â Leave a comment.
11 replies on “Cuppy’s Coffee Issues Statement Regarding Java Jo’z Controversy”
Yes, thanks to you and the owner of the bluemaumau.org site for writing about the similarities between the two companies. My brother also got one of their legal nastygrams, so we, at the time, decided to pull all references to Cuppy’s out of our blogs.
But, thanks to your posts, the posts on bluemaumau.org and some legal advice given to my brother, Ben, I decided it was time to highlight the fact that these two franchisers are indeed very similar companies. Even pointed to your blog and bluemaumau.org’s postings.
So thanks for the support in this. I just hope that it gives people pause when thinking about doing business with Cuppy’s and also gets my brother and his partner (not to mention the other people who have also apparently been similarly shafted) their money back.
Hi I am just adding on to this last person comment. I worked for a mag sales crew. World Media InternationalInc, RUn by Roy P. Snowden and Kimberly(kim)Snowden,I traveled through your city knocking on doors. Why there is not some protection in place for these kids, more then a randaom story or Blog. This man was just convicted on 5 counts of Tax evasion and defrauding the IRS. I have a tax lean on my credit report from him not filing the taxes he said he was paying!!!! We were kids, and many lives have been Ruined by these people. Freezing cold tempertures and 12-14 hr work days….$15-$20 a day if we were lucky. Then when you don’t make the cut they drop you at a bus station, spit on you and leave eyou w/ no money no ticket, in some ghetto bus station!More, More MOre needs to be done about this. ANd it starts with the people answering the doors. Don’t or if you do tak ethat kid in your house and tell them what is really going on and get them help. These kids are used to make millions of dollars for these dirty old men and thier dirty wives. I pray for the children of these people everyday! I tell you one thing there is no Justice, for these kids.This man has also screwed a bunch of People who were investing in his Java Jo’ z (cuppy’s) Franchise, many people were milked out of 30,000 dollars or more~Any other kids out there who worked for Roy P. Snowden And Kimberly (Kim)Snowden let me know!!!!!!
Posted by Trisha A. Paliotti at 11:39 AM
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why are you not posting this
I wonder who the “another individual” is on the formation of this association.
Steve: Fransynergy posted this on bluemaumau.com:
“…I took a look at the Nevada Secretary of States website and searched out Medina Enterprises were we learn that the corporate entity was formed 12/16/2003 and is Active and in good standing. Their officers all have the last name of Morgan (Alyssa R, Christina F, and Robert C) and use the address of 2533 N. Carson St, Carson City, NV 89706. This address is also the address of their Resident Agent Laughlin International, Inc. When you view all the companies which Laughlin serves as resident agent there are MANY!!!!. When you view the records for Laughlin International, Inc. you find that a Lee Morgan held all the officer positions AND they were dissolved on 4/24/2002. However they may somehow be tied to Laughlin & Associates, Inc. at the same 2533 N. Carson address whose file date is 3/25/77 and are currently an active NV corporation with Michelle Young holding all officers positions. If you jump over to the Florida Secretary of State site and take a look at Medina Enterprises you find that theyâ€™re active as a Foreign Profit corporation (Date Filed 5/8/06) with a principle address of 348 Miracle Strip Parkway SW, BLDG D Suite 16A, FT. Walton Beach FL 32548. Robert C. Morgan listed as both Registered Agent and Officer/Director.”
Cuppy’s and Java Jo’z
Ok well it seems the whole Cuppy’s / Java Jo’z world is going mad. How a company trying to avoid some much deserved bad press can go around deleting and rerouting url from blogs and legit web sites! I have been following all of this very closley mainly because I randomly Googled ROY Snowden , World Media International and Magazine sales crews, When I stumbled upon all this stuff going on with this man. I can not say that I was at all surprised. When working for him on the Mag crew I seen just how rotten and slimey he could be! Now all of these peoples lives are being negitivley impacted by his shaddy dealings. I personaly do not know why he is not being sued and / or investigated on all of these other alligations. Just goes to show you how our goverment spends its time chasing all the wrong criminals. This man should have ben in jail years ago.
So now Cuppy’s / Java Jo’z/ Medina Enterprises are going around and deleting all the negitive comments about them. Listen, these people bought a company from a convicted criminal, who they knew was involved in these shady practices. Roy Snowdens “friend” and ex partner is now part of this Cuppy’s but they say they have no affiliation w/ Java Jo’z or Roy Snowden and Kim Snowden. First of all hacking is illegal. Second how stupid do these people think the public are. I find it utterly humorus the comments and bloggs the “employee’s” are writing about this company….Hmmmm…all this brain washing sounds very familiar. Doesn’t it Roy. ANd the people who use to work for them and are blogging the truth they are dogging.
Only as an adult have I truly realized that there are people out there who do not have an honest bone in there body, some people are so obsessed w/ the love of money and lifestyle that they will trample on anyone to get it. I tink all of these people Roy Snowden, Kim Snowden, Ben Doyle, Medina Enterprises , Cuppy’s , Java Jo’z need to be further investigated.
Also this man who started all the Buzz about the scam and losing of money’s has dissapeared from the net. Either scared by a letter from the lawyers of these cowards threatning a law suite or quite possibly bought off. This country was founded on free speach and If this Ben Scoble is not a dunce he knows he can say anything he believes to be true in any forum he wants.
I am quite disgusted by this whole thing, I hope they all get what they deserve.
I personally feel what ever you put out there comes back to you ten fold!!! And when I was a scared 19 year old in a bus station in the ghetto of St. PAul w/ no mOney or bus ticket i prayed this man would someday get his. I can only hope that all of this bites him in the ass, “law of averages” says you can’t get away with everything forever.!
PLease read about this…and give me some feed back!!!
what a sleazeball. And Ben Doyle is not any better. I live in Ft Walton Beach. I was opening a business and needed a building. One thing led to another and I was introduced to Roy who built my building, which is the first K3 he built. He promissed it within one month. It took him 6 and I think if it were not for the fact that I am local I would still be waiting. He has some psych issues. Would come to my business and piss and moan and act as if he owned the place and was really shaky at times and looked as if he was on drugs.
His wife reportedly has some issues as well and I always felt sorry for her but wondered her level of involvement. So with Roy’s delays, and my constant badgering, he cost us all of our capital. He promissed to sell some franchises for us. We sent him names of people who constantly complained about how rude they were.
Roy had a thing for my wife and made her really uncomfortable. He even offerred her a million bucks, no kidding , to leave me and bring the store with. He came in alone all the time to proposition her. I recorded a lot of this. We ended up telling him we would get restraining orders against him and give Kim the tapes. He tried to sue us after that for some made up crap. It was thrown out. He usually had three or four lawsuits going. I hope he has to pay everyone back and spends more than 4 years in the pen. He has a house that has increased in value and is worth a couple of million bucks, I hope they seize that if they have not already.
Yup…sounds like the same ROY we all know and love…FYI he was sentenced to four years…in Federal Pen…# yrs probation and has to pay 1.16 million….They say he has already paid-GET THIS 900,000.00 hmmm wonder where that came from….
I totally understand all of the comments in this blog. My wife and I purchased a Java Jo’z franchise, only to be totally pushed away when the company became a Cuppy’s. Only because we were about to lose our $50,000 initial investment we decided to switch to the Cuppys. This new company Cuppys is not much better than the Java joz. The company continues not to provide the services or the equipment that has been promised in the contract when we purchased the franchise. It has only been through our constant persistant and hard effort that we have almost gotten our store completed. The contractors that Cuppys hires to do the work are totally unethical and at every turn Cuppys or the contractors try to delete or supply a lesser quality item than what is in the contract. Cuppys also continues to come up with items that are in the contract but Cuppys says it is the owners responsibility to install. It would be my suggestion that everyone stay away from this franchise unless you have plenty of extra money to spend.
Robert your experience is so close to ours, we want you to know that you are not alone. We should get with everyone involved and try a class action lawsuit.
We are almost finished with our store as well but thank God they lost our contract so we are no longer Cuppys. But they are still obligated to complete my store and believe me they are kicking and screaming. We must warn everybody out there do not do business with thse people. By the way the man who started complaining about Cuppy’s in the first place now works for them.
Lots of luck because we are feeling you down here in Alabama.
Yeah!! We bought into the whole Java/Cuppy’s thing, now we are fighting to get our $30k back from these theives. I had one of the employees tell me on the phone, “Mrs. Rivera this is a corporation do you think we keep your money in the back room, we have bills to pay, your money is gone”. Of course I didn’t like that response so I told her I would be getting a lawyer and the response was good luck with that. All I can say is I am glad we were not in the building stage and lost more than 30K, we could be like the other Java Jo’z in my town which is haveing TONS of problems with the building, their service etc. She is fixing to lose everything because of the delays and broken items, lack of business, you get the idea. What goes around comes around. I don’t care if they say they are not the same, they are, the same person who took my money at Java Jo’z is the same person who will not give it back at Cuppy’s. That’s ok I’ll get my money one way or another and people will know what type of company this is.
BEWARE TO THOSE WHO MIGHT BE TRYING TO GET IN!! RUN!!!!
Well, as with many of you who are Java Joz owners or are in the process,my experience has been for the most part quite disappointing to say the least. Right now I am trying to settle with these people down in Florida and they refuse to respond to any of our letters. The lawyer that represents the who company has since placed a lien on my store. They say that we owe them money. Well on the contrary, many of the items that we were suppose to recieve we didnt. The contractor on the job was so slow if he went any slower he would be going backwards. My signage was late…etc…
Then there are the people who try to get they’re money back and the Snowdens state that if these people sue,then they will just claim bankrupcy. Isnt that convienent!
In my personal opinion this whole process has been shady to say the least. Sure, Cuppys offered to change Java Joz investors over to Cuppys at no price. If you think about it, the reason many of us wanted to be licenses is because we didnt want big brother telling us what we could sell and how to sell it.
There is no way the Morgan couldnt of known what Snowden was doing. When he pulled out the tape recorded during our meeting I should of turned around and went back home. But I didnt. Now look at the mess I am in. Please think twice before you do business with these people. There are many other companies out there that are established and up and running in good form.
Good luck to all of you.